Investing in Real Assets Conference 2024

14 March 2024, London

Grocers Hall • Princes St, London EC2R 8HL

Agenda

09:00

Chair’s opening remarks

Vincent Huck, Editor, Insurance Asset Risk

09:10

Real asset investment strategies in the context of the current global macro-economic environment

  • Have interest rates peaked? What are the potential implications for liquidity risk appetite and real asset investment strategies?
  • While interest rates are high, when is the right time to hold on to liquidity versus taking advantage of the higher yields available?
  • Is inflation still a concern? How effective are real assets, as an asset class, for diversification and hedging against inflation?
  • 2024 will be an election year, with key jurisdictions – like US, UK, Taiwan, EU parliament – voting, what are the implications for geopolitical risk and how will it trickle down to investment decisions?
  • Against this backdrop of uncertainty, which real assets could stand to bring better yields than others?
  • What is the growth outlook for 2024 and beyond?

Moderator:
Vincent Huck, Editor, Insurance Asset Risk

Panellists:
Erik Vynckier, Board Member, Foresters Friendly Society
Jérôme Jean Haegeli, Group Chief Economist, Swiss Re
Thomas Fiedler, Head of Section, Group Investment Management, ERGO Group AG

 

09:55

Real assets and net-zero transition strategies

  • Examining the role of infrastructure, renewables, and real estate in transition strategies. How might this role evolve going forward? And how to avoid the risk of greenwashing?
  • Impact of regulation and policies? What changes could help channel insurers' capital towards green or greening infra and real estate projects?
  • How to measure environmental and social considerations in real asset portfolios?
  • How to balance investing in green real assets and greening real assets through investments?
  • Discussing the capex challenges of using real assets to support net-zero transition

Moderator:
Josh Adcock, Staff Writer, Insurance Asset Risk

Panellists:
Bianca Hanscombe, Head of Sustainable Investments – UK Life, Aviva
Dominik Albert, Sustainability Engagement Manager, Allianz Investment Management
Marieke van Kamp, Head of Private Markets, NN Group
Wendy Walford, Head of Climate and Nature Risk, Legal & General

 

10:40

Coffee and networking

11:10

Public versus private assets in the high interest rate environment

  • Comparing the pros, cons and risks of the private markets over equity markets when investing in real assets, and sharing examples of each
  • How are the current interest rates impacting public versus private allocations?
  • How could this play out going forward in the longer term, and what might be the influencing factors?

Moderator:
Robert Leeming, News Editor, Insurance Asset Risk

Panellists:
Corrado Pistarino, Chief Investment Officer, Foresters Friendly Society
David Ramroop, Chief Investment Officer, JUST Group
Kedi Huang, Chief Investment Officer - UK, Aspen Group

11:55

UK Solvency II reform and implications for real assets: could changes to the MA rules unlock investment opportunities?

  • Reviewing the current status and future timeline of Solvency II reform: where is it heading?
  • Discussing the increased investment flexibility created by the change in MA requirements - how is the universe of MA eligible assets set to expand, and how can insurers exploit this?
  • Is the introduction of highly predictable cash flows useful to tap in new assets – such as SLBs?
  • Exploring the implications in terms of risk management, capital requirements, valuation and investment decisions

Moderator:
Vincent Huck, Editor, Insurance Asset Risk

Panellists:
Darren Bustin, Head of Solution Capabilities, Schroders
Elizabeth Cain, Head of Debt Origination, Pension Insurance Corporation
Kyle Audley, Senior Investment Manager - New Assets, Phoenix Group
Prasun Mathur, Head of Private Assets, Aviva

12:40

Lunch

13:40

Infrastructure – investment trends, risks and future outlook

  • Reviewing the current state of the infrastructure sector and its outlook, given recent defaults and takeovers
  • As spreads have tightened, how is this impacting investor appetite for infrastructure assets? When to invest?
  • Managing the challenges of infrastructure investments in a high interest environment, and dealing with volatility caused by inflation-linked cashflows (fuel etc)
  • Discussing infrastructure debt versus equity, public versus private capital, and PPPs
  • Trends, yield capacity and outlook for the different infrastructure sectors:
    • Transport
    • Energy infrastructure, including utilities
    • Renewables: is the "greenium" too high to make new investments viable?
    • Digital infrastructure
  • Navigating illiquidity risks
  • How are ESG and net zero transition strategies changing insurers' approaches to infrastructure investments?

Moderator:
Robert Leeming, News Editor, Insurance Asset Risk

Panellists:
Frank Mühleck, Senior Consultant, Munich Re
Greg Scott, Investment Manager, Phoenix Group
Nitesh Mistry, Head of Infrastructure Finance, Swiss Re

14:25

Real estate – where are the growth areas, how are investment approaches changing, and how are insurers investing in real estate to support their ESG strategies?

  • Reviewing global trends impacting the sector, such as the challenging real estate climate in China
  • Discussing the outlook for assets within the real estate sector:
    • Industrial (including logistics and warehouses/storage)
    • Residential
    • Office space
    • Retail
    • Hotels and leisure
  • Exploring how insurers are changing their approach to real estate in the current climate of low valuations - for example, how are they instilling more pricing discipline and selectivity into their real estate investments?
  • Examining the challenges of getting access to deal flow and origination of attractive, high quality real estate assets
  • How are insurers taking advantage of the low supply/high demand dynamics in rental markets, due to the high mortgage rates? What opportunities can be found here for long term investors' portfolios?
  • Exploring the growth of investments in social housing, and how this aligns with insurers' social impact and engagement strategies
  • To what extent can investment in repurposing of real estate to improve energy efficiency and green new builds support the "E" in ESG?

Moderator:
Josh Adcock, Staff Writer, Insurance Asset Risk

Panellists:
Jonathan Campbell, Senior Credit Risk Specialist - Real Estate, Phoenix Group
Mark Wood, Head of Credit, Aviva UK
Mike Bessell, Managing Director, European and Global Investment Strategist, Invesco Real Estate

15:10

Chair’s closing remarks

15:15

Coffee and networking